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Posted by patricia sherman on October 26, 2002 at 06:46:17:

In Reply to: Paul and dogstar.....More on this issue....... posted by Brian C. on October 26, 2002 at 00:03:42:

I'm very intrigued by this topic, and I do have several albino obsoletas.

I've seen pics of Dwight Good's albino E. o. obsoleta babies, and they look different from mine. His appear to have orangey-red blotches on a white background, my three (that I bred this summer from normal//het parents) have dark peachy-pink blotches on a pink background. The 2001 albino that I purchased from SCALES appears to be like my own (she's from a white sire, and normal//het mother). I'm told that the white sire hatched as a pink baby with dark-pink blotches, and that his daughter will eventually be as white as he is. This appears to be true, since she's now quite a bit paler than this year's hatchlings.

Because I don't know whether these animals are T- or T+, I was asking whether the only way for me to find out would be through test-matings to amel E. guttata. The response was that I needed either to breed them to known T- or T+ obsoleta mates, or to subject them to tyrosinase testing. Neither solution is practical, since both would entail prohibitive expense for me. I've no great desire to be producing hybrid offspring, but I think it is the only way that I'm going to be able to determine the true genetics of my animals. If you have any other solution to offer, or if you can tell me of a visual way of determining which type I have, I'd be happy to know of it.

Tricia

:Hi there ,
: this is my first time in this forum as i am more of a python and boa guyand spend most of my time in those forums but i do work in a reptile store and deal with just about every type there is. We also have a black rat that is pure white with red/pink eyes. I know for a fact that the father was an albino but not sure about the mother but i believe she was as well. we have been discussing this topic a lot lately trying to determine if it was a snow/blizzard black rat. I am not sure how genetics work with rat snakes but i would imagine that it would be the same or similar to ball python genetics which is what i am familiar with. I have seen both T- and T+ albinos and the T- still has some pattern on it but if you look at a Snow Ball (albino x axanthic = normal looking double hets, breed these and you may get lucky and get a snow) it has no pattern at all. So this is where the confusion sets in, hehe. As i said i am not that familiar with rat snakes. Can 2 normal albinos produce a T- albino or do one of the parents have to be T-. Also would a snow/blizzard black rat be produced the same way as in ball pythons. What would a T- albino be worth? What about a Snow/Blizzard?(i say snow/blizzard because i am not sure if there is a standard set yet. Ball pythons are snows, but i know with corns there are snows and blizzards, go figure.)

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