Well John, we tend to use a cane pole with one of them big red and white bobbers on the end of it. What happens is this. Dangle the bobber over the hole that you believe a lizard is in. Sooner or later he/she will come out and either volley the ball with you or they do like to play a rough game of kick ball. What’s nice is that the bobber is attached so retrieving those foul balls that chucks are so known for, is much easier. If you should get bored with either of these activities, boinking the lizard on the head with the bobber makes it easier to catch him or her.